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A Christmas Message To Organisations That Use Workfare

December 9, 2013

Thanks to Johnny Void. I have seen suggestions that we should all do this to all organisations that use workfare. I have to agree with these suggestions!

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  1. Margaret OHagan permalink
    December 9, 2013 12:51 pm

    I don’t quite understand. I thought the salvation and army were kind and helping loads of homeless people at Christmas and New Year. I have received their Christmas appeal letter and I was going to donate to them to help the homeless especially at this time of year. So please can you inform me of what’s going on. Thankyou. Mags.

    • Keith Prince permalink
      December 10, 2013 2:05 am

      Originally William Booth’s Christian Mission in the east end of London wasn’t aimed at materially helping the poor, as an evangelical Christian to him it was what happened after you died that was the important thing. However he realised his message fell on deaf ears so the Salvation Army’s soup kicthens, seamen’s missions and the like were a ‘veneer’ to entice poor workers and the unemployed to come hear “God’s” (his) message of repentance and salvation. His other big fear was that ideas like socialism and anarchism might take root among the working classes and his organisation was designed, in part, to try and stave off strikes and protests. Initially his mission was funded my northern textile mill owners who were infamous exploiters (12 year olds worked 12 hours a day & were even crushed to death by machinery – being small they were used to clean under machinery while it was still sunning). Booth was feted by leading businessmen, Queen Victoria and US presidents and he was a great supporter of British imperialism – hence the uniforms which were meant to invoke the jingoism of the day. So their use today of workfare is actually true to their founding traditions.

  2. Joe permalink
    December 9, 2013 2:32 pm

    10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread. – 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12

    • J C permalink
      December 9, 2013 7:25 pm

      Yeah I guess we should just let all the disabled people, the vulnerable, and the unemployed in our broken economy starve and freeze to death because an old book said so. What the fuck happened to love thy neighbour? Where is your Christian compassion? Didn’t Jesus live on alms?

  3. December 9, 2013 2:39 pm

    Erm, If you want to help the homeless, go find the ones that hang around in your area and have a little chat with them. Make an omelette with those mushrooms that are on their due date or grab those fruits your kids won’t eat and give them to the guys you see in the street. Better yet with some hot coffee or tea. It’s not expensive and you see the results by yourself, not having to trust in an anonymous charity org. The Salvation Army use unpaid workforce to achieve their goals and deny their help to people who are gay. That sort of defeats the purpose of helping. You can help better and, believe me, it is sort of addictive. (I don’t know what the bible guy means, but maybe it’s the same).

  4. Shaun permalink
    December 9, 2013 10:28 pm

    I think that the point needs to be stressed that there is a major difference between a charity and a business. Most charities appear to be moving ever closer to becoming indiscernible from businesses (except that do not pay tax and can claim 25% back from HMRC for items they sell), while their directors are rapidly moving into the 6-figure salary category, with expense accounts to match. A lot of business (banks most of all, but others through various employment subsidy schemes) are becoming charities in that they receive large amount of assistance from the taxpayer and that assistance is not related to either need (it is not related to profit margins or executive pay) nor morale worth. And of course both can get volunteers free from the local job centre, indeed some can get paid for the inconvenience of taking on free labour’. Now if your are disabled, unemployed and/or homeless it’s completely the opposite way round. Even if you have paid 30 years or more National Insurance on the basis that if you were, ill, became disabled or unemployed you would receive at least the minimum amount of money needed to live off.

    • Eunice Slyfield permalink
      December 17, 2013 5:35 pm

      Some charities pay their bosses quite a lot .But expect disabled to work their shops for nothing. I once worked in a Scope shop I had to volunteer or loose benefit
      this was in the 80s. The manager was a university student. Being paid ! I could have ran the shop. But Scope used university student. Maybe mummy and daddy paid scope .


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