It is not just those with a mental health condition that are at risk of sucide or death due to PIP assessments. If you live with a long term disability or condition you nearly always have mild depression even for physical problems related to the often enforced social isolation and not being able to do simple everyday tasks others take for granted never mind other life challenges. Then you are forced to fill long forms in by the DWP.The worry waiting for the outcome makes us more anxious and depressed at the thought that they will take away what little help we have with care and mobility.We learn they ignore our painstakenly filled in forms, collecting and struggling to copy letters from specialists in favour of lies told by the private company medical assessors who know nothing about us, and have targets to meet in failing people. On my nurse assessment form she stated that she had ignored all the hospital medical evidence. She failed to put all my medical conditions or prescribed medication in the boxes on her form. I innocently assumed that she would record all. Instead she stated I was on no significant pain medication, despite supplied prescriptions, pain clinic letters etc. She stated I had a normal spine and normal gait despite supplied evidence to state otherwise and her failure to even assess my spine.or gait. She stated I could walk many times my actual few metres which is not reliable or repeatable or safe and very slow so shouldn’t even count hence I rely on my wheelchair which she ignored to acknowledge in her list of my aids. I am now even more depressed at being left housebound, incontinent, unable to shower.or carry out therapy. Next week my car which offered me some normality is due to go along with it the means to put air into my wheelchair tyres. What is the point of living? I know thousands more disabled people are having their lives destroyed by ATOS lies and the DWP failing to take account of all the evidence that we supply in good faith.
I agree. This year has been a complete nightmare. I have lost all confidence and become anxious and scared. I have MS and had DWP for life. I was told to life the best life I can not the worst and with my husband I have tried. Our experience was like yours. We sent all the evidence and filled in the form with all the information we have after 25 years of disability. The Health Assessor came round…observed I could blow my own nose and open my wallet and that is mostly all the Assessment has been based on I have lost all faith in the system. We haven’t been able to talk to anyone or get any help …just been told…this is a different benefit. That’s not my fault. My needs remain the same. But its now a tick box system..and it doesn’t work well for honest claimants Stay strong.
If you haven’t already done so it is vital to appeal. You may be out of time, but a good place to look for advice is the Disability Rights UK website as well as MS organisations.You could also reapply as Your MS is likely to have deteriorated since the change over form. PIP is different to DLA but how we can suddenly have the ability to walk much further reliably repeatedly and safely after 20 plus years with ongoing medical evidence to support very limited mobility is beyond reason. The medical assessors appear to make unreasonable assumptions about anything and ignore fact. How can trained healthcare professionals can live with the consequences of their false reporting leading to a much bigger burden on the NHS as we fail to cope and suffer severe depression?
Fraud by failing to disclose information – http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/3
(eg. if the quack doesn’t tell you that they are NOT a medical doctor, Breaks Medical Act 1983 – Pretending to be a ‘doctor’ sections 49 and 49A)
Note the phrase “a risk of loss”. Just attempting Fraud IS Fraud.
And, if you can find an honest cop, gets the quack up to Ten years in prison….
Also… up to life in prison for –
Misconduct in Public Office – http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/misconduct_in_public_office/
****Ignore all the online criminal Fakes trolling for the DWP. ****
Fairly easy to spot. The sickos will never use words like ‘Fraud’, ‘Misconduct’, ‘Abuse’ or ‘Police’.
They call their criminal abusing quacks ” healthcare professionals”.
They tell you you have to go through a DWP cover-up “Appeal” instead of reporting crime to the Police.
And they’ll recommend corrupt Bribed Course of Justice Perverts like “Disability Rights UK “, a Fake ‘Charity’ funded by The DWP and Maximus.
And they also want to prohibit your MP getting involved. It’s what they get paid to do, and why we elect them, to represent the disabled as well as able bodied. This elitist Tory government need gone, never to return.
Those Fakes will only ever use words like “Deaths,Kills, Suicides” they have not and will NEVER use words like “Homicide, Murder, Manslaughter, ABH, GBH, Attempted” and of course will never ask “Where are the Police”.
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You’ll never hear those ‘Vox Political’ lowlife asking “Where are Jeremy Corbyn’s 17 Police Forces? And all the Local Council Social Services run by him and his gang of ‘Wilfully Neglectful’ criminal abusers… Too busy counting the millions they get from Atos/Maximus Unions like Unison.
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It is not just those with a mental health condition that are at risk of sucide or death due to PIP assessments. If you live with a long term disability or condition you nearly always have mild depression even for physical problems related to the often enforced social isolation and not being able to do simple everyday tasks others take for granted never mind other life challenges. Then you are forced to fill long forms in by the DWP.The worry waiting for the outcome makes us more anxious and depressed at the thought that they will take away what little help we have with care and mobility.We learn they ignore our painstakenly filled in forms, collecting and struggling to copy letters from specialists in favour of lies told by the private company medical assessors who know nothing about us, and have targets to meet in failing people. On my nurse assessment form she stated that she had ignored all the hospital medical evidence. She failed to put all my medical conditions or prescribed medication in the boxes on her form. I innocently assumed that she would record all. Instead she stated I was on no significant pain medication, despite supplied prescriptions, pain clinic letters etc. She stated I had a normal spine and normal gait despite supplied evidence to state otherwise and her failure to even assess my spine.or gait. She stated I could walk many times my actual few metres which is not reliable or repeatable or safe and very slow so shouldn’t even count hence I rely on my wheelchair which she ignored to acknowledge in her list of my aids. I am now even more depressed at being left housebound, incontinent, unable to shower.or carry out therapy. Next week my car which offered me some normality is due to go along with it the means to put air into my wheelchair tyres. What is the point of living? I know thousands more disabled people are having their lives destroyed by ATOS lies and the DWP failing to take account of all the evidence that we supply in good faith.
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I agree. This year has been a complete nightmare. I have lost all confidence and become anxious and scared. I have MS and had DWP for life. I was told to life the best life I can not the worst and with my husband I have tried. Our experience was like yours. We sent all the evidence and filled in the form with all the information we have after 25 years of disability. The Health Assessor came round…observed I could blow my own nose and open my wallet and that is mostly all the Assessment has been based on I have lost all faith in the system. We haven’t been able to talk to anyone or get any help …just been told…this is a different benefit. That’s not my fault. My needs remain the same. But its now a tick box system..and it doesn’t work well for honest claimants Stay strong.
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If you haven’t already done so it is vital to appeal. You may be out of time, but a good place to look for advice is the Disability Rights UK website as well as MS organisations.You could also reapply as Your MS is likely to have deteriorated since the change over form. PIP is different to DLA but how we can suddenly have the ability to walk much further reliably repeatedly and safely after 20 plus years with ongoing medical evidence to support very limited mobility is beyond reason. The medical assessors appear to make unreasonable assumptions about anything and ignore fact. How can trained healthcare professionals can live with the consequences of their false reporting leading to a much bigger burden on the NHS as we fail to cope and suffer severe depression?
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Lynn , checkout the Fraud Act 2006. It’s really pretty simple.
Fraud Act 2006 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/contents
There are three main types of fraud there (the DWP commits all three)
Fraud by false representation –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2
(Lying)
Fraud by failing to disclose information –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/3
(eg. if the quack doesn’t tell you that they are NOT a medical doctor, Breaks Medical Act 1983 – Pretending to be a ‘doctor’ sections 49 and 49A)
Fraud by abuse of position –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/4
(General Dishonesty and Omissions)
Note the phrase “a risk of loss”. Just attempting Fraud IS Fraud.
And, if you can find an honest cop, gets the quack up to Ten years in prison….
Also… up to life in prison for –
Misconduct in Public Office –
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/misconduct_in_public_office/
****Ignore all the online criminal Fakes trolling for the DWP. ****
Fairly easy to spot. The sickos will never use words like ‘Fraud’, ‘Misconduct’, ‘Abuse’ or ‘Police’.
They call their criminal abusing quacks ” healthcare professionals”.
They tell you you have to go through a DWP cover-up “Appeal” instead of reporting crime to the Police.
And they’ll recommend corrupt Bribed Course of Justice Perverts like “Disability Rights UK “, a Fake ‘Charity’ funded by The DWP and Maximus.
Perverting The Course of Justice –
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/public_justice_offences_incorporating_the_charging_standard/
Assisting an Offender – section 4(1) Criminal Law Act 1967 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/58/section/4
Serious Crime Act 2007 – Part 2 – Encouraging or Assisting Crime –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/part/2
Accessories and Abettors Act 1861 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/94/crossheading/as-to-abettors-in-misdemeanors
The Bribery Act 2010 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/23/contents
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And they also want to prohibit your MP getting involved. It’s what they get paid to do, and why we elect them, to represent the disabled as well as able bodied. This elitist Tory government need gone, never to return.
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>… Vox Political
Political Fake News sites who after all these years *still* won’t mention something as simple as the Fraud Act?
Fraud Act 2006 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/contents
Those Fakes will only ever use words like “Deaths,Kills, Suicides” they have not and will NEVER use words like “Homicide, Murder, Manslaughter, ABH, GBH, Attempted” and of course will never ask “Where are the Police”.
Homicide: Murder and Manslaughter –
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/homicide_murder_and_manslaughter/
ABH/GBH
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offences_against_the_person/
Criminal Attempts Act 1981 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/47/contents
Or tell the victims of their bestest PCS/Unison/Atos/DWP mates to report their buddies crimes to the Police.
Vox Political. Another Fake News site from DWP supporters.
Assisting an Offender – section 4(1) Criminal Law Act 1967 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/58/section/4
Accessories and Abettors Act 1861 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/94/crossheading/as-to-abettors-in-misdemeanors
Serious Crime Act 2007 – Part 2 – Encouraging or Assisting Crime –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/part/2
Perverting The Course of Justice –
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/public_justice_offences_incorporating_the_charging_standard/
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You’ll never hear those ‘Vox Political’ lowlife asking “Where are Jeremy Corbyn’s 17 Police Forces? And all the Local Council Social Services run by him and his gang of ‘Wilfully Neglectful’ criminal abusers… Too busy counting the millions they get from Atos/Maximus Unions like Unison.
The Bribery Act 2010 –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/23/contents
Misconduct in Public Office –
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/misconduct_in_public_office/
Serious Crime Act 2007 – Part 2 – Encouraging or Assisting Crime –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/part/2
Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 –
Corrupt or other improper exercise of police powers and privileges –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/2/section/26/enacted
Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 –
Ill-treatment or wilful neglect: care worker offence –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/2/section/20/enacted
Ill-treatment or wilful neglect: care provider offence –
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/2/section/21/enacted
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