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PIP Should Be Decided By The NHS, Not The DWP

March 15, 2018

We’ve been asked to publicise this petition to the Government.


Currently the DWP handles the deliberation of PIP and ESA. Disability is a state of being dealing with health, not work and pensions. The decisions for any disability related payments or dictates should be handled by the government’s experts (i.e. health professionals) in the NHS, not DWP.


In August this year the UN criticised the UK government for its treatment of people with disability and stripping people of their livelihoods, dignity and being. This has led to an increase of post-decision making unexplained deaths of people with disabilities. The DWP is not concerned with helping people or listening to experts on health related issues with relying on ‘for profit’ companies making decisions on people with disabilities. The NHS needs to be the decision making body for PIP.



10 Comments leave one →
  1. March 15, 2018 3:26 am

    Reblogged this on sdbast.

  2. Sarah Davis permalink
    March 15, 2018 9:59 am

    I find it really frustrating that the most publicised benefit is nearly always PIP. This is an additional benefit paid to someone who already has an income. ESA is always the one tacked on at the end in many articles but for those who get it it’s the difference between life and death. All the problems that PIP claimants have are also suffered by ESA claimants but they’re only mentioned in passing. A lot of people who get ESA are living on £73 a week and having to fight tooth and nail against these crooked DWP just to get that. This needs to be publicised more

  3. March 15, 2018 9:43 pm

    Actually I think this would be very bad for people with mental illness. We already struggle with substandard care and contradictory ideologies in treatment. Many psychologists disagree with each other, many patients suffer misdiagnoses and coercion to unsuitable treatments. Some, like those diagnosed with supposed personality disorders are often despised by NHS staff.

    We need impartial PIP decision makers not tied to treatment acceptance, and definitely not psychiatrists!!

    • Justin permalink
      March 16, 2018 2:13 pm

      no such thing as impartial pip decision makers, I do agree that would be the way forwards, we need external decision makers not working for dwp/dfc and a regulated external complaints service such as the PALS Service In NHS Trust’S, then the motivated by greed lot won’t be about for long as they either learn from there mistakes or end up going through regulatory due process

  4. Justin permalink
    March 15, 2018 9:57 pm

    it really would not matter to me who ran it, granted I am in favour of this being within the NHS and under NHS rules and complaints guidelines, that way there would be a lot of carefull assessors not making so many decisions motivated by greed, however, unfortunately this assessment process is flawed, as they are going top find out fairly soon when a few of there so called assessors are going to be reported to the regulatory bodies for a series of issues, the real problem would be getting people to trust this assessment, I do not and have seen some bad case examples just recently, one in particular that is so serious hat although there is the capita complaints process, this is also facing referall once all the evidence is gathered to take this to the regulatory body under putting a patient in danger and a risk to members of public as well, there is to little regulatory action taken against these professionals and as for the complaints process, well that should be headlined with Boris running it, then you might be able to understand why it is such a mess and regarded as a waste of time

  5. March 16, 2018 1:54 pm

    Yes drs should do it

    • Justin permalink
      March 16, 2018 2:15 pm

      it should be abolished all together until they actually have a system that works, where all involved are trained to accept the responsibility of there decisions and to take ownership of there decisions, if they then get it wrong they have no comeback if they then have to have there own medical tribunal to decide if there fit for work and that also includes decision maker’s

  6. June 21, 2018 2:40 pm

    Reblogged this on michaelsnaith.

  7. June 22, 2018 12:34 pm

    Yeh… Right… nothing could possibly go wrong with that…

    NHS is a ‘wonderful’ organisation.. free lethal injections for all –

    30 years of cover-up – (“learning lessons” in public sector vermin speak)

    And the filth still can’t say the word “Murder” –
    “institutionalised practice of shortening lives”

    Homicide: Murder and Manslaughter –

    Yeah… NHS murderers can be trusted to do quack pseudoscience Work Capability Assessments…

    (and why are the petitioners only whining about PIP?)

    Date closed – 20 June 2018

    Love this pile of criminal BS from the DWP –

    “Government responded”

    “The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities is an international human rights treaty of the United Nations (UN) intended to protect the rights and dignity of persons with Disabilities. All nations signed up to the convention are subject to a periodic review as part of the standard UN reporting process. We were disappointed that the concluding observations of the UN did not accurately reflect the evidence we gave to the committee.”

    UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities – Articles

    Article 15 – Freedom from torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment –

    “1. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. In particular, no one shall be subjected without his or her free consent to medical or scientific experimentation.”

    “2. States Parties shall take all effective legislative, administrative, judicial or other measures to prevent persons with disabilities, on an equal basis with others, from being subjected to torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.”

    “(6)A person who commits the offence of torture shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.”

    Misconduct in Public Office –
    “It carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment”

    So DWP where are your Police?


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